Beth Sarim

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  2015-Information Needed For Visit Of Circuit Overseer-S-61-E!

  by Atlantis in

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  no wonder the elder's are becoming burned out and stepping down!

  2015, information needed for visit of circuit overseer.

  .. click the green download button.. .. information needed for visit of circuit overseer .

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  Beth Sarim

  I am very grateful for all this leaked stuff.
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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

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  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yeah, it all makes sense. It is a big corporation trying to protect itself from allegations. All corporations have procedures in legal matters. Child abuse is one of them. Just a big business disguised as a religion. So much control to maintain the corporation.
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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Disturbing and Alarming to see that evidence is to be destroyed. I remember not too long ago, someone posted on here a leaked letter telling elders to destroy letters to the congregation that were dated a previous date. It is my understanding that elders are to meet amongst themselves on legal matters before going to the police, or local authorities. This too is disturbing and alarming.
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  Sound familiar?

  by careful in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  journalists exposing religious corruption?.

  secret documents being leaked?.

  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/03/world/europe/vatican-arrests-leaked-documents.html?_r=0.

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  Beth Sarim

  Which is worse you ask. I would hesitantly say going to jail would be worse. Because that way at least you are free and not in some shit-hole prison sleeping with one eye open and eyes on the back of your head.
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  How have you felt since you learned TTATT?

  by tornapart in

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  2. experiences

  it's been 4 years since it happened to me.

  an almost overnight experience.

  i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.

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  Beth Sarim

  It did not really happen all at once for me, that is learning TATT. It was a gradual awakening over the years. Just the way the congregation leaves people out among things. Critical thinking kicked-in big time. So much hard evidence showed up with evolution and other life in our universe. The erroneous blood doctrine too.

  The above things combined with researching online, lurking on these forums too, were wake-up calls. Yeah, you feel like an idiot for believing the Borg for years. But like I said it was a period of years, or even over a decade of learning the fallacies of the Borg. I guess you could say it did not hit me all at once, but gradual. It had less of profound effect on me. -

  I have to venture to say probably in the neighbourhood of 15-20 years of waking-up altogether, starting with that November 1995 Awake. That began the slide, or wake-up.
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  WT is a human rights violator according to the definition of state.gov and USA law - time for us to start putting pressure in lawmakers!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  religious freedom taken from http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/religiousfreedom/index.htm#wrapper.

  quotingdirectly from the article...."it is the responsibility of governments to safeguard universal human rights and fundamental freedoms, including the right to life and the freedom of conscience, belief, practice, worship, and to explain and change ones faith.........people cannot enjoy religious freedom unless they have both the right to express their beliefs freely and change their religion without facing persecution, violence, or discrimination.... (ask yourself if the wt article i'm quoting next is allowing the freedom to change religion without discrimination and persecution.

  so with that being said.....is the wt protecting religious freedom?

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  Beth Sarim

  I 100% agree. The Borg completely abuses the freedom in which people should live. They always say that God gives man freewill. But they turn around and shun or bully those who practise such freewill by wanting to leave their religion. Hypocrisy.
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  AGM 2015: "New Light"

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i could only manage to watch the part of the antitypical babylonian exile not being from 1914-1919, but from some time in the second century to 1919..

  for the interest on keeping tabs what family and former friends are being taught...what other new light was given?

  specifically, what is the new light in regard the mark?.

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  Beth Sarim

  There was and there is another WT study about enforcing shunning I thought. Seems they are ratcheting down control of late. I'm thinking some doctrinal change is on the horizon. Lett did seem to be talking about 607B.C. a bit.
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  2015-Watchtower Audit Checklist!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2015, audit checklist.. .. click the green download button.. .. 2015 checklist for audit of file .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/aliira5.

  .. .. wtunderground!.

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  Beth Sarim

  Thanks very much Atlantis.!
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  THE MAGIC OF BEING FOOLED (and being REWARDED for it!)

  by Terry in

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  (and being rewarded for it).

  did you know there are only 6 magic tricks in the entire world?

  all illusion, prestidigitation, legerdemain and sleight-of-hand combined merely juggle and recycle these six elements..

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  Beth Sarim

  lol, funny you should mention that. The harping of bad conditions in the world, corruption, etc at the beginning of every talk. Then with that clincher paragraph at the end about God has a new system coming , soon, very soon, that will end all of the world problems. Predictable.
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  Assembly baptisms/attendance - keep 'em coming!

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  don't forget to post your reported assembly and convention attendance and baptisms and whether they are higher or lower than customary (if you know).. here's some detail passed to me of the last circuit assembly held at surrey (uk) assembly hall.. attendance 922 baptisms 3 (half circuit).

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  Beth Sarim

  Same here, no more assemblies for years now.